This will be an online discussion for two critical pieces. The first video is Steve Jobs' iconic Stanford Commencement Address, which is featured in Ch. 1-3 of So Good They Can't Ignore You. As you watch it, leave two takeaways from the talk concerning following your passion or doing what you love or what we have read about so far in So Good They Can't Ignore You.
The second piece to watch is Mike Rowe's iconic TED Talk. In it, Rowe takes the opposite point of view of Jobs. In fact, Rowe claims that following one's passion is terrible advice. As you watch this, again, leave two takeaways from the talk concerning following your passion or doing what you love or what we have read about so far in So Good They Can't Ignore You (Ch. 1-3).
Finally, leave responses to two different takeaways from your classmates. That means you will be leaving six total comments on this blog.
I have left a sample comment for each video as models for what yours should look like.
Mr. Reynolds - The comment from Jobs I find most interesting - and one that runs counter to his 'just follow your passion and do what you love' hypothesis is when he says "You can only connect the dots looking back." This, I believe, means that you don't just blindly follow your passion. Instead, people who find work they love and find meaningful, make skillful choices in developing their skills through 'extraordinary opportunities.' They might not recognize those opportunities right away (such as our poor singer who thought she was going to win American Idol but ended up humiliating herself - because now she KNOWS that her voice is terrible and she should not waste any more time on that foolish dream), but you should double down on the skills you already have so that you get better.
ReplyDeleteMr. Reynolds - In response to Mike Rowe's talk - I believe when he says that you should never follow your passion but you should always bring it with you, is great advice. I believe passion is vital - no doubt. But I think too many young people today think that it is vital at the start of your lives or your search for jobs. The opposite is actually true. Most people - who do, in fact, have work that they love and are passionate about - grow to develop that love and passion over time (years on the job, in fact).
ReplyDeleteBreanna Myers - one comment that I find interesting from jobs is that "you cannot connect the dots looking forward, you can only connect them looking backwards" you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in the future because it will give you the confidence to your heart. doing the things that you love and working on the skills that you are good at will get you where you need to be and maybe down the road there will be an extraordinary opportunity.
ReplyDeleteJulia response- I really like this takeaway and completely agree that you need to look forward to become more successful and i liked how you connected this back to getting a chance at an extraordinary opportunity.
DeleteAverys response: I 100% agree with you breanna. You need to keep moving forward and try not to dwell on the past. You need to have confidence that what you do will work out.
DeleteAli response: I totally agree with your key takeaway. You need to keep looking forward. Not backwards in order to open up opportunities for yourself.
DeleteHolly Van Schaick - Two takeaways from Steve Jobs - The first big takeaway from Jobs' speech is to find what you love to do and don't settle. I thought it was interesting that he gave this piece of advice because he didn't really follow a passion or start doing what he loved right after dropping out of college. He mentioned that after he was fired from Apple, he knew he loved the work, but I think he loved it only because he had been doing it for 10 years. "So Good They Can't Ignore You" says that people only love their jobs after it becomes a skill. The second takeaway that I have is to trust that everything is going to work out. I like how Jobs said that you can only look back to connect the dots. It is reassuring to hear that we don't need to have everything planned out.
ReplyDeleteHolly, I like your second point a lot. There are a few people in my life who have always used the phrase "hindsight is 20-20." This is similar to what jobs said. You may not see the path now, but when you look back you'll see how everything connected.
DeleteCarlie Rogalla - I really like how you said that even though Jobs said to follow your passion he didn't follow his. He only came passionate about computers after he had been doing it for so long and gained skills.
DeleteAvery Skaar response : This is true Holly, steve gave a good piece of advice when he mentioned find what you love to do and dont settle. We should always be looking for what we can improve on to be better.
DeleteBrayden Spears - Two takeaways from Steve Jobs - The first takeaway from Steve Jobs' speech was even when things go bad if you still love what you do than keep doing it. I found this interesting because after the falling out with his partner and ending up getting fired he still wanted to do what he loved instead of packing up and leaving. The second takeaway was when he said, "Your work is going to fill a large part in your life, and the only way to be truly satisfied is to do what you believe is great work. And the only way to do great work is to love what you do". I really like this statement because many people settle for things that they don't like doing and there lives seem miserable but if you keep looking you will eventually find what you are looking for.
ReplyDeleteTy Paul - Hey Brayden I think your takeaway about how even when things go bad, you should still keep going. I think that this is important when looking for a job that you are skilled in, because you are going to have bumps along the road. Some of the most successful people didn't just get handed their success, they had to work consistently and not give up.
DeleteGretta Grzadzielewski- Hey Brayden, I think both of your takeaways are super important. The most important parts of a job are that you love what you do and you have the skills set for it. We know this from S.G.T.C.I.Y. I think it is important to continue in your job even when times get tough. It is a necessity to work through it to develop grit and reach a consistent incline in your job.
DeleteBrayden Spears - Two Takeaways from Mike Rowe - The first takeaway from Mike Rowe speaking was when he said, "Follow you passion. What could possibly go wrong with that? Its probably the worst advice I ever got". This really relates to many different topic and scenarios in the book but there main point being that following your passion might not be the best tjing for everyone, it might work for some people but for others it just might not work. The second takeaway was when he said, "Follow you dreams and go broke, that what I heard when growing up". This is another great point that shows that doing what you love sometimes isn't going to pay the bills and will hurt you financially more than it will help.
ReplyDeleteColin Bottem - Hey Brayden I like both of your takeaways. I like how you related your first takeaway to the book. I also agree that even though following your passion make work for some people, it does not work for most so it still is not great advice.
DeleteGabe Winter - Takeaways from Steve Jobs- The first takeaway is from the book when Steve Jobs's speech was published on Youtube and the comments all suggested to take his advice to follow your passion. Ultimately, Steve Jobs followed his passion but considering his background and the skills he acquired he had experience to do so. This is bad advice for people because many people who follow their passion are either not good at it or will grow tired when they reach a certain point and will end up unhappy. The second takeaway is from the book when it mentions, "Perhaps the only thing it does make clear is that, at least for Jobs, 'follow your passion' was not particularly useful advice" during his speech you obviously see a man who loves what he does but that doesn't necessarily mean he is passionate about it. Considered that you should not follow your passion into a career.
ReplyDeleteBrayden Response - Hey Gabe I really how you didn't just take stuff from the video but went deeper into the comments and talked about how those people all said that you need to follow your passion. This shows me you really went into it and got the best information you could while also getting feedback from people that watched the youtube video and voiced there thoughts on following your passion. Really good post!!!
DeleteColin Bottem - Hey Gabe I like both of your takeaways. I like the point you made on the first takeaway about how following your passion is not good advice. Most people who follow their passion probably do not have the same skills and experience Jobs had with his passion. So unless you have those skills following your passion may not work out.
DeleteKailee Larson - Steve Jobs Commencement speech - My first takeaway is that he also supports the idea of quitting. In the positive aspect anyway. He saw no purpose in the expensive college education that he was getting, so he dropped out to figure out what he did want to do. Second takeaway, when bad things happen you have the potential to came back better. Things that feel awful at the time might end up being the starting point for something extraordinary.
ReplyDeleteCarlie Rogalla - I really liked both takeaways you made here. He said that getting fired was probably the best thing to happen to him. It made him aware that he truly loved working with computers and he was great at it, so he kept working to get better and actually ended up getting his job back because he never gave up.
DeleteKailee Larson - Mike Rowe Dirty Jobs - First takeaway, Mike was surprised by how wrong he was about the more humane way to castrate a lamb. He talks about the power of being wrong and the value of rethinking. This relates directly to the book I read "Think Again" by Adam Grant. The main thing is that we can't and won't learn anything until we admit we're wrong and open our minds to other options. Second takeaway, work that makes you happy does not need to be the flashiest job. The happiest people have not great jobs, but a good balance and are happy. They did not follow their passions.
ReplyDeleteBrayden Response - Hello Kailee, I really enjoyed reading your discussion post about Mike Rowes talk on the ted talk. I really like how you picked a takeaway that shows how Mike was surprised by how wrong he was about something. I also really liked how you brought up the power of being wrong and the value of rethinking, two major things in life. Really great job!!!
DeleteJulia response- I really liked your first takeaway and how we need to realize that sometimes we are wrong. I agree with the fact that without realizing that we were wrong and rethinking it we will never get to open our eyes to any other options.
DeleteBreanna Myers -Kailee, i really like how you talked about how we need to accept that fact that we can be wrong. we do need to realize that we are wrong and rethinking the question of why we are were wrong wont help us in the future
DeleteKora Sorter- Kailee, You had a great discussion post explaining your takeaways. I agree with your statement that say "work that makes you happy does not need to be the flashiest job" because people tend to think you have to have a good job to have a good life.
DeleteCamille Berra - Kailee, I like your first takeaway where you state that we have to accept that we are wrong sometimes. I think having humility is very important.
DeleteCarlie Rogalla - (Steve Jobs) My first takeaway is there are things in life we might not think are important but they all connect and can be beneficial to you in the future. Little things can be just as important as big things. “You can’t connect the dots looking forward. You can only connect them looking backward.” Over the years he kept gaining skills that helped him fall more passionate about technology and helped him find a job he loved. My second takeaway is don’t let failures hold you back from what you love. Jobs was fired from his own company but he never gave up and still loved working with computers. He didn’t loathe in self-pity but he made this a way to push forward and be better. He says the positives in a negative situation. He later worked for Apple again because even though he got fired he was too good at what he did they hired him back.
ReplyDeleteCarlie Rogalla - (Mike Rowe) My first takeaway is don’t follow your passion. Watch where everyone else goes and go the other way. Rowe gives examples of people using their skills and knowledge to give themselves extraordinary opportunities. My second takeaway is Rowe says that safety in some jobs is not the most important. There are jobs out there that are not safe to do yet people have to do them. The purpose of these jobs is the high risk can be high reward. People probably don’t grow up passionate about risky jobs but they do it because it is what they are good at and it can get them a lot of money.
ReplyDeleteHolly Van Schaick - I like your first takeaway. I agree that it's important to do the things that nobody else is doing. I think that people should definitely act on the extraordinary opportunities that they get. You never know if the skills that you have will work well in that opportunity unless you just try it.
DeleteAli Response: I 100% agree with your first takeaway about go in the other direction of other people. I think it is important to do things other people aren't that way you standout. Sense everyone has their own unique individual talents/skills.
DeleteI also thought that it was very interesting that there were jobs out there like that where if you were at work, they didn't value safety over getting a big pay check. This is one of the ways that they might be able to keep people out of the job who don't want to do it. People who are scared for their lives and don't want to be there won't show up for work.
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DeleteColin Bottem - (Steve Jobs) My first takeaway from Steve Jobs speech is to follow your curiosity and intuition. When Jobs realized college was not everything he thought it would be he dropped out, which ended up being the best decision of his life. He went on to do things that he wanted to do. My second takeaway from Jobs speech is to keep pushing forward. At 30 Jobs was pushed out of his own company. Instead of giving up after losing what he had worked his whole life for he kept moving forward.
ReplyDeleteTy Paul - Hey Colin I like how you touch upon the idea of curiosity and intuition that Jobs talked about in his speech. Sometimes that our gut feeling can be right and we should follow it. As you said Jobs did this when he dropped out of college, which was one of the best decisions of his life.
DeleteColin Bottem - (Mike Rowe) My first takeaway from Rowe's talk is that follow your passion is not great advice. It can sometimes set you up for failure, and a lot of the people Rowe talks about who like their jobs were not people that followed their passion. My second takeaway is work that makes you happy may not be high paying or nice. He talks about the people who work picking up roadkill who love their job and walk around whistling. They don't have a flashy high paying job but yet they like it anyway They did not get there by following their passion either.
ReplyDeleteEthan Lane - I think that your takeaway captures Mike Rowe's message perfectly. His talk challenges the idea that following your passion is always the key to success. Finding satisfaction in any job, regardless of its cleanliness, really shows the idea that happiness and fulfillment can be found in unexpected places.
DeleteI think this is a good example of the misuse of passion, because if the roadkill people are passionate about doing that, they might have some issues with them. It's not about being passionate about your job all the time; there are other factors that make these jobs fulfilling and enjoyable to do for these people, and it's not passion.
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DeleteTy Paul - (Steve Jobs) My first takeaway from Jobs is to not settle for less. He talked about how you should find something you enjoy doing when looking for. job, since it takes a lot of your time up. You shouldn't try to settle for the something you might not enjoy because it is safe, but rather search for something that relly interests you. The same way that technology interested Jobs. He didn't give up on Apple when he got fired and looked for something to settle. My second takeaway is that our time is limited whether we like it or not. This is something that Jobs emphasizes in his speech where he says that we should live life everyday like its the last. This is one of the best inventions of life he says in his speech. He also says that it pushes us forward too because it shows us that we have nothing to lose, so you should follow your heart. As Apollo Creed said in Rocky 3, "There is no tomorrow", because its not guaranteed.
ReplyDeleteTy Paul - (Mike Rowe) My first takeaway is that we sometimes are not right and we may be wrong about something. Mike talked about how he found out how wrong he was when he suggested to 'safely' cast the lambs. He figured out that the way that the humane society did their casting was maybe wrong since it would hurt the lambs for a longer period of time then what they first did to cast the lambs. My second takeaway is that sometimes following your passion isn't the greatest advice. He talks about some of the most successful people, like the farmer he asked, didn't follow their passion, yet they are more successful than people who tried to. He talks about how we have this sort of civil war in the work industry and how we look upon down the dirty jobs, since they didn't follow their so called passion, even though they are still making good money.
ReplyDeleteJulia Rude- My first takeaway from the Steve Jobs video is that when finding a career you are really interested in you need to be curious and try out different things to find what you are truly interested in and do what will make you happy in the future. When Steve realized that he didn't like what he was doing he dropped out and used his curiosity to find out things that he really enjoyed doing. My second takeaway is to keep pushing even when something stands in your way. In the video Steve was fired from his own business but he realized that he still loved what he did and kept pushing forward, he never quit and started another business which apple bought and he eventually returned. He never settled and kept pushing because he still loved what he was doing.
ReplyDeleteEthan Lane - Your takeaway is really well done. One key lesson we can draw from Jobs's story is the importance of curiosity and exploration in finding one's true passion and calling. Jobs's willingness to try out different things and follow his curiosity led him to discover his interests and ultimately shaped his career path.
DeleteEthan Lane - (Steve Jobs) My first takeaway from the video is passion is essential for success. Jobs emphasized the importance of pursuing work that you are passionate about. He stressed that passion is what keeps you motivated, driven, and willing to persevere through challenges. My second takeaway from the video is do not settle, keep searching. Jobs encouraged the graduates to never settle for mediocrity and to keep searching for what they love. He shared his own experience of dropping out of college and then attending classes he was passionate about, which eventually led him to co-found Apple. Jobs thought that by continuously seeking out what inspires you, you will eventually find success.
ReplyDeleteJulia Rude- My first takeaway from Mike Rowe is how he realized that he got a lot of things wrong in life, which is something that will happen to everyone. But getting something wrong is not the worst thing, it may help you open your eyes to more things and help you start getting them right. My second takeaway is what he says about following your passion. He believes that it is the worst advice you can get but that's all he heard growing up and that is all we hear growing up. Mike says in the video "Follow you passion and end up broke" what you really love to do and what you succeed in isn't always a super flashy job.
ReplyDeleteBralynne Drevlow - Julia, these are really good points! I agree that we often fear being wrong to much and to our detriment because being wrong helps us to grow and learn. Your second point also resonates with me. Following your passion isn't always the dream it's made out to be.
DeleteSera Johnson- I agree on these points, I really believe that you do not need a flashy job to succeed and enjoy your career.
DeleteGretta Grzadzielewski- Two Takeaways from Steve Jobs- My first biggest takeaway from Steve Jobs was that if it doesn't feel right it is okay to quit. Steve Jobs knew that his parents couldn't support him going to college. He also knew that everything would work out if he did quit. He had an instinct, and looking at that now, it was the best decision his younger self made. My second takeaway is that you should continue on though life, no matter the situation. Steve Jobs was fired from his own company. This put a huge damper on all that he had accomplished, but he persevered through it and now says that it is the best thing that could have happened to him.
ReplyDeleteHolly Van Schaick - I completely agree with your second takeaway. No matter what obstacles someone may face, it's important to find a way to work through the hardships in order to find the good in it. An analogy that I think of is that life is full of hills and valleys. You have to continue on through the valleys and climb hills in order to see the sun at the top.
DeleteCamille Berra - Gretta your first takeaway is great, it's ok to quit and you shouldn't see it as a bad thing. Sometimes life doesn't go as you planned it to.
DeleteGabe Winter- Gretta I like the first point you made about quitting. If the job doesn't make you happy and it doesn't feel right just quit. Simple as that.
DeleteEthan Lane - (Mike Rowe) My first takeaway from the video is that passion isn't always inherent, it can take time to develop a passion. Instead of blindly pursuing what you believe are your passions, he encourages people to explore opportunities and find fulfillment in unexpected places. My second takeaway is the importance of work ethic. Rowe emphasizes the importance of work ethic and the value of all types of work, regardless of how dirty or menial it may seem. He suggests that true fulfillment comes not just from doing what you love, but from doing it well and taking pride in your work.
ReplyDeleteGabe Winter- Ethan I like that second point you made about work ethic. No matter how dirty the job is as long as you love what your doing and it makes you happy go for it.
DeleteAvery Skaar (steve jobs) My first take away is at the beginning of the video when Steve says he never graduated college and dropping out was the best decision he ever made. He says since he dropped out he got to take classes that actually interested him instead of the ones that were required and he thought were useless. Steve had gotten to take the class calligraphy which he found very interesting and soon lead to creation of macbooks/apple. The second thing that stuck out to me is when steve says " believing that the dots will connect down the road is give you confidence to follow your heart". I like this. To become successful at anything you need to have confidence,.
ReplyDeleteSophia Kraemer- Avery I love your statement about becoming successful you need to have confidence. In my early high school years of sports I did not excel like I knew I could and like I do now, and one of the major factors of this was that I lacked the confidence. Now I am meeting my goals and this is because I learned to grow my confidence and in return in helped me succeed.
DeleteAvery Skaar (Mike Row) Mike talks alot about the power of being wrong and how we should vaule the way we rethink things. We wont learn anything if we cant admit were wrong. the second thing that stuck out to me is when Mike says people who are very happy dont have what seems like the "best jobs" but when you can figure out balancing work and life you can still be happy.
ReplyDeletebreanna myers- avery, i like your takeaway on balancing out work when it seems like some people don't have what seems to be the best job. some people may think that but the people who do work that job really enjoy it and has made it sustainable to their living.
DeleteKora Sorter- Avery, I agree with with your takeaway that there is power in being wrong. Sometime its hard to admit you are wrong but its good to always rethink.
DeleteHolly Van Schaick - Mike Rowe Takeaways - First, I liked the two words that Rowe mentioned: anagnorisis and peripeteia. The two together mean discoveries that lead to a change in mindset. Second, I was taken aback when he said, "Follow your dreams and go broke." It's a pretty blunt line but I think that being candid is important. No one wants to go broke, so the simplicity of what he is saying stuck out as one of the most important things that he said.
ReplyDeleteGretta Grzadzielewski- Holly, I really like the fact that you mentioned the words anagnorisis and peripeteia. I think when he says those two words, it makes you think harder about the topic he is talking about. Each of your takeaways are great points that Mike Rowe expresses!
DeleteBreanna Myers - Mike Rowe takeaways- I like when he talks about how people told him to follow his passion but thats the worst advice he's ever gotten. he was told if he does, everything is going to work out but what really stuck out was the efficiency vs effectiveness. The second takeaway is when it seems like some people don't have the best jobs in the world, they make it reasonably effective to their living snd they enjoy what they do because they have balanced out how to live and work while being happy.
ReplyDeleteBralynne Drevlow - Breanna, I agree with your second point that though some people have difficult jobs, they're still happy because they're doing effective work. This ties back to Newport's book where he tied job satisfaction to job efficiency.
DeleteOlivia Tougas - Breanna, I agree following your passion is some of the worst advice someone could follow.
DeleteKora Sorter - Steve Jobs (two takeaways) My first takeaway is that Steve Jobs is very successful. Jobs is a CEO, at Apple and Pixar Animation without graduating from college. I think this would shock a lot of people because in his time “to be successful” you had to go to college to have a chance to be successful. Steve was getting put up for adoption because his biological mom wanted Stevt to have parents who had graduated from college so that Steve could be successful. You could Relate this to cultural Legacy because his biological mom thought that his culture would set him up for success. My second takeaway is living like it's your last day “Remembering you're going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose”. Steve was told he had cancer and had to start preparing to die, but why would he now just start to try to make things easy? When you could live every day like it's your last. Steve was given an extraordinary opportunity to be faced against someone's worst fear of death but was able to fight it off but now is left with a deeper meaning of life.
ReplyDeleteMr. Reynolds, I like how you - as several others did here too - linked it to a concept from Outliers (extraordinary opportunities). Nice job.
DeleteKendra Mehrkens: I like how you explained how Steve Jobs was given an extraordinary opportunity and how his mother helped break his culture legacy.
DeleteBecca Harbott- I liked how you intertwined his cultural legacies in this video with Steve Jobs to outliers!
DeleteKora Sorter - TED talk (two takeaways) My first takeaway is that Mike Rowe was faced with the meaning of dirty jobs. Rowe wanted to do everything the right way and didn’t want it to be so gruesome, as a result, the sheep had to suffer for multiple hours. Mike Rowe had to open his eyes and see that he was wrong in this case. I think when doing the dirty job Mike Rowe Was the Enablement. Rowe didn’t like the job that he had to do but he got the job done. My second takeaway is People with dirty jobs are happier than you think. I can relate this to our guest speaker Josh Jensen when he said that the Dirty Jobs are what people need but that's never anyone's “ passion”. Doing dirty jobs could be a hidden advantage because you are always needed.
ReplyDeleteSophia Kraemer- Kora I agree with your statement that dirty job workers are often very happy. We are always going to need plumbers and farmers and things of that nature, if anything the need for them are going to grow. But since not a lot of people are willing to do these jobs, the people who do them get great benefit's therefor helping to make them happier.
DeleteOlivia Tougas- Kora I agree with this, sometimes you have to do the hard stuff before the good and fun stuff come along. You can't just expect it yo be perfect and fun right away you have to push through
DeleteAl Yuska- I agree, to be good at something it takes time and hard work. People that do dirty jobs find satisfaction in their work like enjoying the physical aspect.
DeleteBralynne Drevlow - Steve Job Takeaways. My first takeaway from Job's speech is that he hammers the advice, "You've got to find what you love," he assures us that finding our passion will lead to happiness. We've learned in Newport's book that this is bad advice. Following your passion can set you up for failure by building an unrealistic expectation for happiness found via that passionate work. Another takeaway from this speech, is related to what we learned in chapter 2 of Newport's book about exceptions and rules in the passion hypothesis. Jobs found success by following his passion, but he is an exception, not the rule. In general, the passion hypothesis does not work, that is the rule.
ReplyDeleteOlivia Wojahn - Bralynne, I like the connection you made between Jobs address and back to Newport. It flowed very nicely and hit the nail on the head with how following your passion can automatically lead to happiness but it can’t.
DeleteSophia Kraemer- Steve Jobs: My first takeaway is when Jobs talks about going to college, spending a ton of money and still not being happy. So he ends up dropping out and enters a scary and uncertain time. I think about this happening to me all the time. I am scared for college, and not for living away from home and having to adult more, but instead that I am making the wrong choice. I want to go to college to become a dermatologist, which is a lot of schooling and even more money. I am terrified that I am going to go waste a lot of money and end up hating it. But even if my worse fear does happen, anything can happen that will help me move on. I may even stumble into my life long career making millions just like Jobs did after dropping out.
ReplyDeleteMr. Reynolds - You are not alone in the dread about making the wrong choice. I will offer you some sage advice from one of our upcoming speakers, Dave Doherty: don't worry about making the RIGHT choice; instead, make an informed choice and work really hard to make that choice the RIGHT one. I hope that makes sense. Great point though.
DeleteOlivia Wojahn - My takeaway from Steve Jobs is the quote "Sometimes life hits you in the head with a brick. Don't lose faith". This relates back to So Good They Can't Ignore You because planning out your life and career can be deemed for failure in itself. None of us know what tomorrow or what the future will look like. But we have to keep pressing on no matter what is thrown at us just like Jobs said with the metaphorical brick. This also hit close to home for him because Jobs was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer and he faced death every day, and while the doctors cleared it, it eventually returned and he died in 2011.
ReplyDeleteSophia Kraemer- Steve Jobs: My second takeaway is when Jobs talks about how he drew in past skills and traits to create the Mac computer. This reminds me when Josh Koop talked about how his past connections and traits helped him get a leg up in his career, which led to making huge advancements.
ReplyDeleteOlivia Tougas- Sophia, I like the way you related this video back to something we previously talked about in class.
DeleteSophia Kraemer- Ted Talk: My first takeaway is when Mike talks about how he told Albert that he was going to do it a different way with rubber bands, instead of using a knife like Albert originally did. Once Albert did it the way Mike wanted to, Mike realized how "Utterly wrong I was". What I get from this is that all most all the time you should listen to the person who has immense experience in the field of work. If you are new and are telling the experienced worker what to do... you are going to be wrong. They know the in's and out's of their craft compared to someone who just showed up.
ReplyDeleteGretta Grzadzielewski- Two Takeaways from Mike Rowe- My first takeaway from Mike Rowe is that you cannot always judge a book bye its cover (yes, I know it's cliche.) Mike Rowe went into the job thinking that rubber bands were the best way to castrate a goat. He first judged the way they castrated the goats, and then realized that may be the best way to do it. My second and biggest takeaway is when Mike Rowe he talks about how he has seen success achieved. He says that the most successful people he knows saw what other people were doing and went the opposite way. This is a point of view I don't think many people understand when talking about success. It takes a special person.
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DeleteSophia Kraemer- Ted Talk: My second takeaway is when Mike talks about the pig farmer outside of Las Vegas and how much money he makes. Growing up there was a shadow over the
ReplyDelete"dirty job" that they did not make any money. That they were poor people looking for any work. But in reality a lot of those "dirty job" make a very good living. And the reason why is that not a lot of people are willing to do them. Think of plumbers, growing up I would have thought they made no money, but now I know that they are doing very well off. And once again the reason is that we are always going to need plumbers, and that there is not a lot of people willing to work in poop all day.
Bralynne Drevlow - Mike Rowe Takeaways - One of Rowe's biggest points during his presentation is that following your passion is bad advice. He recalls having been given this advice growing up and points out how bad the advice is. He even jokes, "Follow your advice and go broke". Rowe suggests that following your passion is really irrelevant when it comes to finding meaningful, good work. Another important point he made is that society has come to diminish the value of hard work. One example, he says, are commercials that push out ideas like, "Your life would better if you didn't work as hard, worked less, retired sooner, etc." This example reminded me of a point Newport made in his book about job dissatisfaction. Newport claimed that job satisfaction could be attributed to time spent mastering skills, leading to a feeling of efficacy in your job. If no one works hard enough to gain those skills, they may be less likely to feel satisfied in their jobs.
ReplyDeleteCamille Berra - Steve Jobs: My first takeaway is when Jobs talked about the skills he learned to help create the Mac computer. He just dropped into classes and took them for fun because he didn't like the boring classes he had to take before he dropped out. He used these skills to create something that no one else had ever created before, and he didn't have to go to college for them. These skills helped him achieve things that no one had ever thought of before.
ReplyDeleteCamille Berra- Steve Jobs: My second takeaway is when he says, "You've got to find what you love." I think that this relates to So Good They Can't Ignore You when he says that, "Passion takes time". It might take a while to find something that you enjoy but if you use your skills and take what you're good at and what you enjoy you could find a job that you love.
ReplyDeleteKendra Mehrkens: although we been hearing a lot "don't follow you passion", but this comment makes sense. We should find something that we love to work at and over time it'll form into an even greater passion
DeleteCamille Berra - Mike Rowe: My first takeaway is when he talks about the pig farmer and how he makes so much money and is so successful but he didn't follow his passion. He says that he looked to see where everyone else was going and he went the other way. Rowe says that the worst advice given is to follow your passion, and I think that's true because with what we've read so far in So Good They Can't Ignore You, one of the main reasons that people love their jobs is because they've been there for so long and because they're good at it.
ReplyDeleteCaleb Rosendahl - I agree with your statements and think it's important to note that almost all successful people in any occupation have gone against the flow of society to reach their success, just like the pig farmer in his speech. If this is what successful people need to do to become successful, then why is that not being talked and taught about more?
DeleteCamille Berra - Mike Rowe: My second takeaway is the dirty jobs that he talks about. These are jobs that are highly commercialized for us to laugh about and not take seriously. But without these people, we wouldn't have these things that we are so happy to have. Maybe these people who are doing these "dirty jobs" didn't follow their passion or are doing something that they love, but they are using their skills and putting in the hard work every day.
ReplyDeleteOlivia Wojahn - Camille, I like personal note you made with the connection that without those jobs we wouldn’t have the things we have. Someone has to the work and these people are. It connects back to don’t follow your passion and maybe these people are, but they’re using their skills and knowledge to perform the job they have
Delete(Steve Jobs) One comment from Steve Jobs I found interesting was "You can only connect the dots looking back". There's no way that at this point in our lives we're able to see and plan out our whole future and our path to get there. We're only able to see how something affects us until we are able to look back at it. So when something inconvenient or something that wasn't originally part of the plan happens, don't worry because later on you'll see how it got you to where you are.
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DeleteKendra Mehrkens - (this is pt. 2 of Steve Job because I forgot to add it into the first post). Another comment that stuck out to me was what he said about following your passion is bad advice. A lot of times people's passions don't directly correlate with a job. So they're stuck looking and looking for a job that they'll never be satisfied with because if you're looking for your passion no job will ever be good enough.
DeleteAli Yuska- Two takeaway from Steve Jobs- the first big takeaway from jobs speech is to find what you love to do and don't settle for less. He started doing what he loved right after dropping out of college. My second takeaway is our time is limited whether we like it or not. Don't waste your time following your passion when you could follow the skills your good at.
ReplyDeleteOlivia Tougas- I agree with these topics they were also my main takeaways from this video too.
DeleteSera Johnson- I thought these were very important talking points too I believe that no one should settle for less.
DeleteOlivia Tougas- Two takeaways I have from the Steve Jobs video is to follow something you love and never settle for less than that. That is what Steve Jobs did and he became successful. My second takeaway is don't take life for granted go after what you want because you only have one life to do it.
ReplyDeleteBecca Harbott- Hey Olivia, I thought that these were really important things that he expressed in his video. Jobs is a successful man and never looked back on his decisions which made him so successful.
DeleteAli Yuska- two take aways Mike Rowe- My first takeaway is you should never follow your passion but you should always bring it along with you. Second takeaway, Mike was surprised by how wrong he was about the more humane way to castrate a lamb. he takes strongly about the power of being wrong and value of rethinking.
ReplyDeleteOlivia Tougas - For the Mike Rowe video is you have to do the dirty work before the fun work. Like how you earn skills over time and how you never start off at the top you have to start from the bottom and work your way to the top and that's is what he was talking about in this video. So don't quit if you just started because it will get better the more skills you acquire and the more promotions you acquire as well.
ReplyDeleteGabe Winter - Mike Rowe - My first takeaway is that you don't have to have a showy job to be successful and happy. Some of the most successful and happy people Rowe talks about don't have the prettiest job but they make a high income and are happy doing it. Second takeaway is when Row says, "Follow your passion, what could possibly go wrong with that? Thats probably the worst advice I ever got" this is true because following your passion into a career is considered dangerous for many reasons. For one you may not have the skills and two it might make you unhappy in the long run.
ReplyDeleteSera Johnson- Two take aways I have from Jobs is the quote "The only way to do great work is to love what you do" which I find very true because you will succeed greater if you have a true passion for your career and that sometimes roadblocks can lead to greater opportunities like how he got fired which had him back to square one making a new more successful life.
ReplyDeleteSera Johnson- Two take aways I have on Rowe's Ted talk is that even the people with the "dirty jobs" still enjoy and have fun with what they do, and how the successful people did not follow their passion in fact they watched everyone go one way and they decided to go the other way.
ReplyDeleteTrian Petrescue: One of Job's statements that I found very interesting was his idea that when moving forward in life, as he says, “you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future.” I think this is a very good way to think about life because, when it comes down to it, no one really knows what they will be doing with their lives in the future. People change jobs and majors so many times in our society that it's one roller coaster to the next. It’s just trying to find what's right for us. This statement encourages those jumps. Find things that interest you now, learn about them, and get good at them because they might just help you in the future. At the end of the Jobs speech, he says, "Stay hungry, stay foolish." I think this means to keep some sense of purpose or motivation for moving forward in the world. He wants people to never settle in their lives or jobs and be complacent with their position. I think this is an interesting idea, but I do have some issues with its meaning. I think the idea of being motivated and hungry for more is good, but there has to be time for complacency in our lives. We need to feel accomplished. If we are always working towards all these different goals, we won't take the time to feel good about ourselves. I think it is a good message to get people out exploring the world; it is encouraging them to not be afraid of failure or making mistakes.
ReplyDeleteCaleb Rosendahl - I agree with everything you just said. I think that there are too many people trying to plan out their lives step by step, but that's just not possible. Part of attaining success is letting yourself go down a unique path that will allow you to develop traits that will lead to success. I also think that once people reach success, striving for more is great, but like you said, can also lead to unhappiness and frustration because they never actually took the time to appreciate all that they have accomplished.
DeleteTrian Petrescue: In the Mike Rowe video, when he talks about the pig farmer, he says, “He stepped back and he watched where everybody was going, and he went the other way.” He saw a need, and he found a way to fill it. A good rule of thumb for finding work is that finding a way to be useful doesn't mean you have to be passionate about it. His statement was that we as a society have waged war on work: ” People don't want to do any of the hard, dirty jobs because thats against the mainstream idea of what a good job is now. Being able to do that hard stuff makes you one of the most versatile workers in the market, and you'll be able to do anything.
ReplyDeleteTrain, this was well said. The jobs that no one wants to do can be the jobs that turn out to be the most successful, but it takes a lot of worth ethic to be good at theses types of jobs.
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DeleteCaleb Rosendahl - Steve Jobs: My first takeaway is how he talks about how you can only connect the dots of your life looking back. This is really interesting because so many people trying to plan out their lives and everything they need to do to become successful in a specific field, but success isn't attained that way. Success is attained by doing everything you can to gain skills that will be transferrable to other things you do along the way, allowing those skills to compile and result in success. This is the process he is talking about when he says, "You can only connect the dots looking backward."
ReplyDeleteCaleb Rosendahl - Steve Jobs: My second takeaway from his speech is that I agree him when he says, "The only way to do great work is to love what you do," but I disagree with him when he continues on and says, "If you haven't found [what you love] yet, keep looking." I agree with the first part because if you don't love what you do, you will never be motivated enough or skilled enough to do great things. However, if you become skilled, you will develop a passion for your job, causing you to love it, be extremely motivated, and do great things. On the other hand, I disagree with him when he says that you need to keep looking for what you love. I disagree because as we have seen in the book So Good They Can't Ignore You, you are only able to truly develop a passion for something when you spend a lot of time on it and become good enough at it to make it fun. If you keep looking for the singular job that you love, you will never spend enough time to become good at anything, leaving you completely unfulfilled.
ReplyDeleteCaleb Rosendahl: Mike Row: My first takeaway is how he tells us that the very successful people that he works with in these "dirty jobs" didn't follow their passion to get to where they are. Instead, they saw what everyone else was doing, took a step back, and did the opposite of what everyone else was doing. By doing this, they were able to find unique ways that allowed them to become very successful. What's the most interesting thing about this, however, is that these things that they found would make them successful wasn't their "passion." Instead, these things were opportunities they have recognized to bring them success, making them work hard and develop the skills to be great at it. It was only at this point that this "dirty job" became a passion.
ReplyDeleteCaleb Rosendahl - Mike Row: My second takeaway is that I think it's really interesting how there's a civil war in America with "dirty jobs." I think it's interesting because I've never thought of it this way and everything makes these jobs seem "beneath" a "successful" person. However, these people are often the most successful and love what they do the most because it's something that they have mastered, causing them to love it. If we stop looking at these jobs as "dirty jobs," a lot more opportunities will open up for success.
ReplyDeleteCaleb, I totally agree with what you said. If you give a skill enough time to develop you will eventually be so good at it you'll love it.
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DeleteKendra Mehrkens - Mike Rowe: One take away from Mike Rowe was that it takes time to form a passion. You will have to spend lots of time to actually form a passion for something such as your job. The second take away was is similar to the first, but you might have to work through the nity-grity to get to the job you want. It most likely will take a lot of determination and persistence to finally get what works for you.
ReplyDeleteBecca Harbott- Steve Jobs: One take way from Steve Jobs is to go with your gut and to not look back. Jobs dropped out of college and wasn't sure about it right away. But looking back, it was one of the best decisions he has ever made. Another big takeaway I got from him is that "Do what you believe is great work, and the only way to do great work is to love what you do". Lots of people don't like what they do so some people might not work as hard because they don't like it. The biggest thing that everyone should work towards is to find something that you love so much so you can do amazing things.
ReplyDeleteBecca Harbott- Mike Rowe: One takeaway that I got from Rowe was that no matter if you have to go through hard times to find your passion or to get what you want in life, you need to keep pushing through it because in the end, everything will work out and you will be so glad you kept pushing. Another takeaway I got from him was that you should not think that having a neat pretty job is going to make you successful. There are so many people that have "dirty-jobs" that make lots of money and are successful. You can be very successful but you just have to want it.
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