Here are the parts of "Everything is a Remix," which examines the same type of "borrowing" as Austin Kleon does in Steal Like an Artist.
Watch the last two videos (we have watched the first two already) and leave one comment per video. Now, in order to receive full credit here (and this will go down as discussion points), please leave a solid, college level response. Don't say that you liked the video in two sentences. Instead, give us some legit college level thinking and analysis: find a new insight into the piece, connect it to something from Kleon's book or another work you've read, or connect it to a pop culture example.
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Everything is a remix part 1:
ReplyDeleteI find it kind of sad how most ideas are not original. . .I feel like if you’re going to copy someone you shouldn’t totally rip them off, but you should take their idea, son, movie, or whatever, and kind of make it your own too. . . Even though it kind of sucks that bands like Led Zeppelin rip off a lot of other artists, it’s pretty smart to take a good idea and make it better and get money because of it (as long as you avoid getting sued).
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I actually find it super annoying that there are so many sequels to movies. I know it’s an easy way to make money by building after their first idea, but who’s really going to watch all of those sequels (unless it’s Harry Potter).
This kind of reminds me of little bets. How a movie started from a book, which started from a blog...The blogger probably never intended for his blog to eventually turn into a movie, but someone viewed his blog, and built off of it making a book. . .It’s a step by step little bet process.
My other responses will be in another comment...
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ReplyDeleteAfter looking back at things you can see how just about everything has been copied, even when it is thought to be an original. It may not be the exact same as something else, but it shares some similarities. The chances of similar things being patented is mind blowing. For example the two guys, who did not know each other, make a patent on the same thing, the exact same day. Discovering an invention and designing it, then to find out someone else already has made something like it would be hard to handle. Knowing all of your hard work, such as the years some people put into things, being almost pointless unless you can build on their invention.
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In this video they can't put it anymore accurately. Copying is okay as long as you are the one copying. No one likes to be copied, but they are okay with doing the copying. Steve jobs for example tried to to justify his copying, but once someone copied one of hi ideas he get defensive about it. To copy something from someone and it being really similar is stupid on their half. If you are going to copy make it a small part without it being considerably similar.
1. Apple did copy the Alto and Star 8010, but it improved it great, which caused it to be its own creation. “We are all building with the same materials. Sometimes, by coincidence we did the same results, but sometime innovation is just plain inevitable.” This quote sums up the whole part 3 video. I connect this video to the original and remake of one of my favorite childhood films, Annie. The original and the 1st remake were quite similar, but then the latest Annie film came into play. They modernized the idea of the storyline, creating it into something different, but from the original idea. They “stole” the idea of Annie, but completely made it its own by modernizing it. Innovation took place, and it is the reason why we have modernized and moved forward from our ancestors.
ReplyDelete2) I love how they connected copying to evolution, which is how I see it. You are taking an original idea and replicating it into something new and different. I “steal” different whenever I do a movie project, I steal camera angles and lighting ideas from my favorite moviemakers. It is what everyone in the film industry does. Original ideas are very rare; I agree with that. I never thought of it until I watched these video. i originated stealing as a horrible thing, not really taking into consideration at everyone in film, music and inventing industry steal from each other all the time.
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I like the Basic Element of Creativity graphic (copy, transform, combine). I haven’t thought about it that much, but now that I am, I can’t think of a single invention or idea that was an original. . .they were all inspired by or built from something else. I think that if you take an idea and copy it, but change it a lot (combine and transform) the product itself it still just as remarkable whether copied or not. It’s knock offs that are so similar to an original that I consider pathetic. It kind of annoys me that apple copied some of the xerox features because i’m a huge apple fangirl, but it their defense they added a lot of their own features that may or may not stemmed from other ideas, but they changed it enough so that it wasn’t a total rip off.
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I like how they relate all of this to evolution. It’s basically a cycle. Before watching these videos, I saw copying as a bad thing, but if we want to grow and prosper as a society, we need to build off of other people’s ideas. Thats how we good things get better. I agree that original ideas are rare and harder to execute, but I don’t believe all ideas are copied. The rate of original ideas probably goes down by the year, but in the beginning of human civilization there had to be original ideas because where would we have stemmed from?
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ReplyDeleteEven though something may seem to be completely original, odds are that it's a remix/knockoff/copy of something that happened before it . It won't be the exact same, otherwise it would be obvious. It'll change little things to make it seem like it's a new idea but hidden beneath the surface is someone else's work. Similar things being patented at basically the same time is pretty common and happens a lot more than I originally thought . The two guys who didn't know or ever heard of each other, make a patent the exact same day for the same thing. Frankly, I'd be pretty PO'd if I patented something only to realize someone did the same thing on the same day and could be taking credit for my work.
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It's basically a cycle of evolution throughout the video. If you want to be successful and grow as an independent, you're going to need to start off by doing things other's did before you to develop the skills necessary to grow. I don't disagree with the fact that original ideas are rare, they are. You're not going to wake up and have an idea that nobody's ever done and know exactly how to execute it. You're going to find different things and mesh them together in order to get the result you think is original, but is really a mix of different ideas. Yes originality is decreasing because we have everything we need really, but it hasn't always been like that. Someone had to start somewhere, and because of them, we're constantly growing.
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ReplyDelete1) I really think this guy is trying to capitalize off of an idea that is pretty self evident. Nobody ever totally invents anything, pretty much ever. The first cavemen to invent fire, clothing, and the use of basic levers truly invented something. The guy that configured existing things into the first digital computer didn't actually invent anything there, he just put some stuff into a cool formation. This guy makes it seem like this idea is his own totally new invention, which goes against everything he's talking about.
ReplyDelete2) I heavily agree with this guy about what he talked about in this video. Copyright laws have gotten extreme and a little stupid. Frankly, I think it is a hindrance to progress. Take the Apple watch for example; Apple probably has a ton of copyrights protecting it from "theft" from other companies. They really didn't invent the stuff inside the watch, they just build it. Now if some guy has some groundbreaking idea in smart watch technology, he really can't capitalize off of it because Apple would sue the pants off of him. He has no choice but to make a cheaper, poorer quality watch with his great idea, or sell it to Apple. What should happen is that he is able to make a watch similar to Apple's. Apple would have to come up with something better to keep sales up and other companies follow suit, and boom, in twenty years we have clean energy and flying cars.
I am really not a fan of intellectual property. I like to work with things on computers and the fact that I can't copy and work on someones code because they made it first is baffling to me. Programs are not objects, they aren't art. In the day and age where people can send files across the planet in an instant I think we should be able to copy someone's code. It promotes invention.
1.) Apple is a good example of a company who steals. They copied many things from previous computers, and Steve Jobs was boastful about it. There's nothing wrong with it. Companies take ideas from others and make them their own, because the original idea was profitable. They add their own twist to an idea and sell it to the public. Apple was one of the first to acknowledge that they stole ideas. However, they get incredibly mad when another company invades their "ideas."
ReplyDelete2.) Copyright laws lately have become insanely absurd. Apple is the biggest culprit. Being an incredibly greedy company, they patent literally any idea that pops into their head, and if anyone even vaguely copies them, they sue. For example, Apple owns a patent that deals with their iPad. The patent doesn't just deal with software, but design. The patent states that Apple owns the rights to products that are rectangle and have rounded corners. A company that has a history of ripping people off tries to put patents onto things to make it seem as if they are completely original to the public.
1.) Nothing is completely original. Every new idea comes from something that was done in the past. Most new inventions are just similar, more improved, copies of something that came before it. Apple is a great example. They copied the Alto and the Star, but they made great improvements to it. I like the part on multiple discovery. There is never just one person who has thought of new inventions.
ReplyDelete2.) All of our “new” ideas evolve from old ones. Nobody likes when they are being copied, but they are completely okay with it when they are doing the copying. Steve jobs didn’t mind talking about how apple steals great ideas from other companies. But he didn’t like when other companies copied apple.